It’s a lot easier to be Non-Religious

Jun 19, 2009

I previously published this post on Internet Monk

I have received a lot of interest and feedback on my last two posts on Internet Monk, concerning how and when people switch between their childhood religion and their current faith. For those who have not had the opportunity to read them, you can read them here and here.

religiousswitching2The question that I have been asked the most is about historical trends in the data. For example, from the graph that I provided you can see that about 50% of adults who were raised non-religious, subsequently joined a faith group. How has this changed over time? (For the purposes of this posting I am using the word “religious” in the way it has been used historically, that is, someone is religious if they are an adherent to a particular faith tradition.)

Bradley Wright, who teaches Sociology of Religion at the University of Connecticut, was kind enough to pass on a source of data where this was analyzed:

Fischer and Hout, in their recent book “Century of Difference” (2006) used General Social Survey data to analyze historical data about religion and childhood. For the most part, the graphs that they provide match up quite nicely with the chart that I provided. Historically, the outflows from Evangelical and Mainline Protestant church have been pretty constant over the last 100 years. Evangelicals have done a better job at retaining member than Mainline Protestants, and so over time have fared better. Typically about 75% of Evangelical 16 year olds will continue their Evangelical affiliation into adulthood. 25% will switch out, a number that is quite similar to what is seen in my chart. Catholics retention is not as strong as it used to be, but according to the Fischer and Hout data is now similar to that of Evangelicals.

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The most striking change was for the non-religious. If you were raised non-religious between 1920 and about 1950 then you were more than 70% likely to join a faith group after the age of 16. This started changing rapidly in the 1960s, and by the time Fischer and Hout collected their data and published their book in 2002, the rate that at which non-religious became religious was down to 25%.

My chart, by nature of it looking at all adults regardless of age, had an averaging effect of younger adults and older adults, so my percentage of outflows from the non-religious was quite a bit higher than the 25% currently being reported by Fischer and Hout. What this means that if we were to somehow update my chart, and look at flows that were happening today, Protestant and Catholic outflows would be very similar to what you see on the chart, but outflows from the non-religious would only be about half as wide as are drawn on the chart.

These numbers should not surprise us. As my wife said to me last night, there is so much more support for the non-religious in school, media, and society in general than there was 50 years ago. It is not surprising that they are now retaining 75% of their adherents. I should also point out the trend in the non-religious retaining their adherents has not slowed. It may already be significantly higher than the 75%.

I hate being a bearer of bad news. I really do. People who know me, know that I am a pretty optimistic kind of guy. I don’t like to see that the non-religious are gaining ground. I have a lot of neighbors and co-workers who are not religious. Most of them do not see any need whatsoever for religion, or faith, or whatever you might want to call it. This is certainly a wake up call that tells me how important it is for me to live a Christ like life, to at least show them, if not tell them, that Jesus Christ is something worth considering.

As usual your thoughts and comments are welcome.


How do we stop the Hemorrhaging? A follow up to the Pew Forum Data

May 18, 2009

By Michael Bell

I recently published this post at InternetMonk.com

In my previous post at Internet Monk, I looked at two surveys conducted by The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life: Faith in Flux: Changes in Religious Affiliation in the U.S. that was released a few weeks ago, and which was a followup to their U.S. Religious Landscape Survey that they released last year.

religiousswitching2By working with the numbers of the surveys I was able to come up with a chart that showed how Americans have been changing from their childhood faith to their current faith. One of the key findings was that Christian denominations are losing adherents though the back door so to speak than they are gaining new believers through the front door. If you haven’t had a chance to check it out, please check out the original post, as it will help you understand some of the ideas behind this post, as well us understand the magnitude of the changes.

Today I wanted to focus on the “when” and the “why” this hemorrhaging was occurring, but as I have been pondering the data, the “when” seemed to really stand out as being important. I was reminded of my preaching classes back in seminary, when our professor, Dr. Peter Ralph, would constantly remind us to find the “big idea” that needed to be communicated from the biblical text. I think the same holds true when looking at survey data. Here is the “big idea” that jumped out at me when going through the Flux survey data and reports:

Most religious life decisions, even among those who have been open to change, has been set by age 23.
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The Times They Are A-Changin’ – How Americans Are Shifting From Their Childhood Beliefs

May 9, 2009

By Michael Bell

This post was originally published at Internet Monk.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin’.
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin’.
- Bob Dylan 1963

For years I have heard about the many changes that have been taking place within the Christian World. Churches and denominations growing, churches and denominations shrinking. We have had a pretty good idea of who has been growing, and who has been shrinking, but with birth rates, death rates and other factors, it has been pretty hard to pin down the source of the growth and decline. Have Evangelicals been growing? If so, has the growth come from the non religious, Catholics, Mainline Protestants, or other religions? What sort of outflows have they experienced that have offset the inputs? Is the back door larger or smaller than the front door? How are the Catholics, the Mainline Protestants, the non religious and others doing?

Well now we know.

A few days ago, The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life released the results of a survey entitled Faith in Flux: Changes in Religious Affiliation in the U.S. This was followup to their U.S. Religious Landscape Survey that they released last year.

I have been busy in the last week doing a bit of reverse engineering on the numbers to represent the shifts in belief as best and as clearly as I can. Here is the resulting chart. You can click on it to see the full sized version.

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Status update

May 9, 2009

By Michael Bell

I had previously posted that because of the busyness of life, both for myself and Joshua Hearne, that posting to Eclectic Christian is going to be quite limited for the next few months. However, I am going to be posting infrequently at Internet Monk and I will repost those items here.


The Underlying Cause of the Recession

Apr 8, 2009

By Mike Bell

Ike made a comment on my recent piece on Recession and Church growth that I think deserves some further attention. Ike begins by quoting from Thomas Kelley who wrote:

The deepest need of men is not food and clothing and shelter, important as they are. It is God. We have mistaken the nature of poverty and thought it was economic poverty. No, it is poverty of soul, deprivation of God’s recreating, loving peace. Peer into poverty and see if we are really getting down to our deepest needs, in our economic salvation schemes. These are important. But they lie farther along the road, secondary steps toward world reconstruction. The primary step is a holy life, transformed and radiant in the glory of God.

Thomas R. Kelly, A Testament of Devotion, page 123.

Ike continues by writing:

Our economic recession began in a recession of the soul. If our hearts were filled with the Holy Spirit, we would be so freed from financial foolishness that we would not have established lifestyles, personally and nationally, that we now know are practically unsustainable, politically divisive, economically backward and perhaps even militarily risky.

The most relevant message to our nation today, and to ourselves, is personal repentance, confession of sin, newness of life and hope in the gracious promises of God in Christ.

Over the last few days I have been thinking about this, particularly as it relates to this blog. I don’t won’t to get so wrapped up in other statistics and other thing that I forget the focus that this blog was supposed to be about. It is about the good news of Jesus Christ, and how that is lived out throughout Christianity. Sure I find the numbers interesting and I am going to continue to put up posts along those lines. As much as possible though I want to try and tie them back to what it means concerning the good news of Jesus.

As always, your thoughts and comments are welcome.


Two newer blogs I like to read

Apr 7, 2009

Two blogs that I have been reading quite a bit recently are Girl in a Glass House and Willohroots. I don’t really care for either of the blogs’ artistic layouts, (sorry guys) but that is not why I go there. Girl in a glass house in an excellent writer who has written some wonderful stuff on her relationship with God. She has a wonderful way of weaving in quotations from other Christian writers. Willohroots tends to have interesting stories about being called into ministry in a small church. I feel a sense of kinship with him as he talks about how he is ministering to others.

Both of them have been a great encouragement to me and are among the most frequent Eclectic Christian commentators. If you haven’t had a chance to visit their sites please do so. I am adding them both to my blogroll.


How the recession may fuel church growth

Apr 6, 2009

By Michael Bell

The following post was originally published at InternetMonk.com.

Michael Spencer recently republished an article which looked at the problems that wealth creates for discipleship. He writes:

Have you ever thought about this? We are living in the most fabulously wealthy, excessively entertained and unimaginably prosperous nation in the history of the world. We have a standard of living, and a level of comfort, that much of the rest of the world cannot imagine…

The Jesus of the Gospel proclaims the promises of prosperity, real estate and parking places to be empty. If we will listen. He’s just as discomforting now as ever, unless we render him the harmless servant of our desires.

Rather than telling us about your best life now, Jesus talks over and over about persecution, sacrifice, voluntary poverty and laying down the images and symbols of success for the lasting worth and influence of the Kingdom of Jesus.

In the story of the rich young ruler, Matthew 19:21-24, Jesus makes it clear that it is very difficult for the rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. It is so very true. When people are content in their present circumstances it is very difficult for them to hear the challenges of the gospel, and the demands of the Kingdom of God. This goes for both people with and without faith in God. For those with faith, it is a question of discipleship. For those without faith it is a question of evangelism.

Recession changes all that.
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Why the change in the crowd?

Apr 1, 2009

I have been posting on Eclectic Christian now for just over a year. This post is the amalgamation of two of my very earliest posts and is revisited now as Easter is just about upon us.

A very large crowd spread their cloaks on the road, while others cut branches from the trees and spread them on the road. 9The crowds that went ahead of him and those that followed shouted,
“Hosanna to the Son of David!”
“Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!”
“Hosanna in the highest!” Matthew 21:8-9

22″What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called Christ?” Pilate asked. They all answered, “Crucify him!”
23″Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate. But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!” Matthew 27:22-23

What a difference a week makes! In one week, the people have gone from shouting “Hosanna” to shouting “Crucify him!” Unfortunately, in almost every sermon I have heard on the topic, the pastor gets it wrong. (Not picking on any particular pastor here, I have heard this preached badly six or seven times.) The Pastor assumes that the crowd in Matthew 21 is the same as the crowd in Matthew 27. But this is not the case. Read the rest of this entry »


TTSTM – March 23 – Peter O’Higgins

Mar 26, 2009

This post is the daily post for March 23rd on my blog: Telling the Stories that Matter.

March 23 – Peter O’Higgins, Martyr, Lifesaver, Thought Criminal

William Pilsworth was the vicar of the Church of Ireland in Donadea and had given room and board to Roman Catholic friars even though they disagreed on some theological matters. In 1641, there was a rebellion on Ireland and many fled the countryside to find refuge in Dublin. William was one of the last to do so and was detained by the rebel army outside of Dublin. When they searched his things they found a letter from a brother-in-law who asked William to kill a rebel and bring the head with him so that their family might purchase security from the powerful by spilling the blood of the hated. Though William had done no such thing and had no plans to do so, he was given a political choice: attend a Roman Catholic mass as an ally or die as an enemy. He refused to be manipulated and so he was marched to the gallows. Before the trapdoor released and William could plunge to his death, a Roman Catholic priest by the name of Peter O’Higgins intervened. Peter had never met William and knew nothing of him but gave a detailed and impassioned speech insisting that this execution would be an unholy and reprehensible act. Having been chastized by Peter O’Higgins, William’s captors released him.

The protestant government soon cracked down on the rebellion and moved into the area with speed and vicious efficiency. Peter remained in his parish even though he had been advised to flee the expected vengeance against Roman Catholics in the area. He was arrested and turned over to the military powers. The commander of the force, a man by the name of Ormonde, handed him on down the line to a lesser officer but expected that the Peter–a Dominican priest–would find mercy from those in whose hands he found himself. Almost twenty protestant clergymen wrote letters begging mercy and leniency for Peter but these appear to be ignored. He was beaten, abused, tortured, and finally marched to the gallows to die. He was accused of trying to convinced protestants to give up their protest but could only be found guilty of simply being Roman Catholic. When he stood on the gallows, he was presented with two pieces of paper: one was a warrant for his execution and the other was a pardon to be given to him on the condition that he recanted his faith. He had requested that the pardon be printed up for him to consider upon the gallows and his accusers had complied.

The assembled crowd looked on as Peter considered both documents. They couldn’t decide what they wanted more: to see the priest die or to see the priest sacrifice his faith for his life. They had long ago left behind devotion to the one who was the Bread of Life. He picked up the pardon and some in the crowd were excited as they imagined he would now recant his position and join with the protestants. Instead, he spoke loudly and for all to hear: “For some time I was in doubt as t the charge on which they would ground my condenmnation; but, thanks to heaven, it is no longer so; and I am about to die for my attachment to the catholic faith. See you here the condition on which I might save my life? Apostasy is all they require; but, before high heaven, I spurn their offers, and with my last breath will glorify God for the honor he has done me, in allowing me thus to suffer for his name.” With these words, he threw the pardon to the dirt below the gallows. The trapdoor was released and he was hung for refusing to give up on his faith–the faith that this accusers claimed but had long ago forgotten. This was not a protestant or Roman Catholic faith alone; it was a faith that transcended political labels and rested solely in devotion to Jesus. As he slowly died at the end of the rope–and even as they were preparing to kill Peter–William Pilsworth stood at his feet repeatedly yelling: “This man is innocent! He saved my life!” Peter O’Higgins died on the 23rd day of March in the year 1642.


New Songs for your Worship Service

Mar 23, 2009

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By Michael Bell

Roughly twenty five years ago, Peter Heath and I started writing songs together. We took a hiatus of twenty years, but for the last year we have been collaborating on songs again. Peter, as you may know is an occasional contributor to Eclectic Christian, who now lives half way around the world. Through the miracle of modern technology we have been able to work together on five new songs. Peter is very much the driving force on the songs, and the primary contributor. I am honored that he puts my name on them as co-writer.

Read. Listen. They are not yet professional recordings but are still very listenable. I have put our most recent song, and my personal favorite, first. We have also included chord charts for all the songs should you wish to play them yourself or introduce them to your worship team. If you would like to use them for your church, simply let us know that you are doing so. In any case, please let us know what you think, we would love your feedback.

Your Will Be Done
Peter Heath & Michael Bell
Chord Chart


1. With His hands He carved the wood
Blessed the children, broke the bread
Healed the sick, Touched the outcast
Carried my cross, the hands of God

My hands are His, To work, to serve
My hands are His, To bless, to heal
My hands are His, for the glory of His name
His perfect will be done

2. With His voice He calmed the sea
Blessed the poor, prayed for you and me
Called the dead from the tomb
Said, “It is done,” the voice of God

My voice is His, to bless, to praise
My voice is His, in any – way
My voice is His, for the glory of His name
His perfect will be done

3. With His feet He traveled the land
From temple courts, to Samaritans
Strode the waves, bowed in the Garden
Walked out of the tomb, the feet of God

My feet are His, to go, to stay
My feet are His, any – where
My feet are His, for the glory of His name
His perfect will

My life is Yours, I give it all
My life is Yours, for any call
My life is Yours, for the glory of Your name
Your perfect will be done

Everything I Want
Peter Heath & Michael Bell
Chord Chart


You are perfect, holy,
Infinite love and mercy
You are purest of light
I am a shadow of You,

You are perfect, holy,
Wonderful grace and beauty
You are purest of light
Glorious, awesome God

You are everything I want,
Everything I need
You’re beyond my reach
Until you reach for me.

You are everything I want,
Everything I need
Oh, draw me in
Till you are all I see.

Follow
Peter Heath & Michael Bell
Chord Chart


1. You lift me up to the mountain
Overwhelm with Your wonders
You rescue me from the pit
And give me strength to stand
Day by day You have met me here
Day and night You have held my hand
So lead me on, lead me on

CH1. God of David, God of Joseph
I will follow, I will follow You
God of Heaven, Lord of my heart
Lead the way, I will follow You

2. You bring me water in the desert
Cool streams for my soul
You call my name in the storm
And trade my chaos for peace
Day by day You have met me here
Day and night You have held my hand
So lead me on, lead me on

CH2. God of David, God of Joseph
I will follow, I will follow You
God of Heaven, Lord of my heart
Lead me on, lead me on (go to CH1)

Tag. Lead the way, Lead me on
I will follow You (repeat)

Never Alone
Peter Heath & Michael Bell
Chord Chart


1. If You lead me away to the farthest side
Of heaven and earth, You are still my guide
You are there, You are there

2. Anywhere for the sake of Your holy name
I will joyfully go, trusting in the claim that
You are there, You are there

CH. Where can I go without You?
There is no hidden place
Where can I go beyond You?
The compass can’t erase
Your love for me
You are ever near

3. From the blessing of home to the farthest land
I am never alone, I am in Your hand
You are there, You are there

God So Loved
Peter Heath & Michael Bell
Chord Chart


Ch. God so loved (God so loved)
God so loved the world
Boundless love (Boundless love)
God so loved the world
You so loved (You so loved)
You so loved the world

1. You gave us light and gave us life
Created us a home
Met every need beyond belief
Poured blessing down like rain

2. You’ve chosen us for royal priests
To pass the blessing on
Till every tribe and nation falls
In worship at the throne

3. You sent Your Son to live a life
Of sacrifice for us
To heal our hurts and set us free
And die upon that cross
The ransom paid, forgiveness made
Grace and justice one
Sin and Death and Satan crushed
And Life Eternal won


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