Eclectic Christian

By Michael Bell

A number of commentators have called me to account for not providing proper support for my last point.

Michael Spencer had written:

This collapse will herald the arrival of an anti-Christian chapter of the post-Christian West. Intolerance of Christianity will rise to levels many of us have not believed possible in our lifetimes, and public policy will become hostile toward evangelical Christianity, seeing it as the opponent of the common good.

I responded by saying that:

If you want to know what America is going to look like in forty years, and how Evangelicals will be treated, look at Canada today… If my statistical analysis up to this point has been correct, then Evangelical numbers in the USA in forty years will be very similar to Evangelical numbers in Canada today. Much of what Michael has said about the way Evangelicals will be treated in the USA is already true in Canada… I do not have the time or space to go into further details, but forty years from now it will be a much different world from what you are currently experiencing.

My mistake was not going into details. I was not trying to say that Canada is a scary place. I was just trying to say that it will be different. Keep in mind that I am saying this as one who is engaging the culture. My kids all go to Public School in Canada, I served for a number of years on School Council. My kids all play soccer in the public league, even though there is a faith based league that they could belong to. I am the lone Evangelical Christian at an advertising agency which has about as secular a culture as you can get.

So here are some of the things that I have experienced or seen happen in Canada that shows society’s increasing intolerance towards Christianity:

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By Michael Bell.

Michael Spencer has published a series of articles about a coming Evangelical collapse in the United States. One, published in the Christian Science Monitor, has stirred up a great deal of debate, both inside and outside the Christian community. As a person who is greatly interested in statistics, I was very interested in seeing if Michael’s claims could be borne out by statistical analysis. Let’s look at some of his statements and see if these ideas can be statistically supported.

1. “Between 25 and 35 percent of Americans today are Evangelicals.”

Let start by looking at the present day numbers. Michael says that between 25 and 35 percent of Americans today are Evangelical. According to the recently released American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS), of the 228,182,000 adult Americans in the survey, 77,747,000 self identify as “Evangelical” or “Born Again”, a number equivalent to 34% of the adult population. These numbers come from across the theological spectrum and include a significant percentage (18.4%) of Catholics who identify themselves as Evangelical as well as members (38.6%) of mainline denominations. So when Michael says that a maximum of 35% of Americans are Evangelical, he is pretty much on the money.

If you only want to count those Evangelicals who are not attending Catholic or mainline denominations you have a number of 56,500,000 who identify as Evangelical or “Born Again”, a number equal to 24.8% of the total adult population. So it would appear that Michael’s range of 25-35% was an extremely accurate starting point.

2. “Within two generations, evangelicalism will be a house deserted of half its occupants.”

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By Michael Bell

We are getting a fair number of visitors because of our post on Internet Monk supporting his claims for an Evangelical collapse. Welcome, take some time to browse and enjoy the site. Be sure to check our Archived Series for some of the more interesting posts that we have written. Any feedback you might provide by way of comments is always appreciated.

In many ways it is kind of ironic, that we would be writing about an Evangelical collapse as Eclectic Christian is about the centrality of the Gospel, and celebrating the many good things that are happening in Churches of many different stripes. Although this may sound strange, I see the post by Michael Spencer as a good thing too. Not because it contains good news, but because it is a clarion call to action. If the good news of Jesus Christ is to be proclaimed, then Evangelicals must act as evangelicals. What are we doing to help spread the good news in a way that people can hear it, understand it, and respond?

Romans 1:16a – For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is God’s power for the salvation of everyone who believes.

Your thoughts and comments are always welcome.

This post is the daily post for March 4th on my blog: Telling the Stories that Matter.

Adrian was a loyal soldier in the Herculean legion under emperor Maximian. The Herculean legion was one of the two veteran legions promoted to the role of Imperial Guard as emperors became increasingly uncomfortable with the loyalty of the Praetorian guard. To be a member of this legion was a great honor that came with a significant number of obligations and responsibilities. One particular role that members of the Herculean legion served was that of torturer of those who dared to resist the Empire. In this way, they were soldiers that fought not only for territory and control but also the minds of the people the emperor hoped to rule over. In the early fourth century, Christians were a common target for the emperor’s wrath and members of the Herculean guard were therefore called upon to torture and kill Christians with regularity.

Once when Adrian was torturing a group of Christians he was stunned with their peace of mind in the face of great pain. As the soldiers he was commanding burned the Christians with hot pokers and beat them savagely, he looked on and had time to marvel at the love and forgiveness they offered their torturers. In Adrian’s mind he must have wondered if he could remain so loyal to the Empire if asked to suffer to this degree for it. As they were being tortured he asked them “What kind of reward could you possibly be expecting from your God that makes you so willing to remain loyal even in the face of Rome’s worst tortures?” The Christians looked at each other through their pain and Adrian must have considered that he had finally stumped them or broken their will.

But then they quoted Paul’s first letter to the Church in Corinth and responded, “For those that love God, God has prepared something that no eye has ever seen, no ear has ever heard, and no human has ever even begun to conceive.” The room was filled with a stunned silence that can only rightfully accompany a sudden and unexpected glimpse of profound and hope filled truth. The soldiers turned to see how Adrian would respond–perhaps they were hoping he would dispel the conviction that tickled their hearts and respond with some witty or equally profound statement to support the Imperial lie they were suddenly aware they were a part of. Adrian responded by dropping to his knees and begging the prayers and forgiveness of the Christians. The soldiers were shocked at this but were further amazed when he proclaimed his faith and trust in the Lord of the Christians whom he had just been persecuting. The men he had been commanding arrested him and turned him over to the brutal hands of the Emperor. He was thrown in prison to await the day he would be executed for his crime of faith.

While in prison his wife, Natalia, heard the story of what had happened to him but wanted to hear it for herself. So, she disguised herself and dressed as a young boy so that she might be admitted to see him in prison. When she arrived, she revealed her identity to her husband and asked him to tell her what had happened. He told the story of the birth of faith within him and she was likewise convicted by the words of the Christians and the faith that had gripped her husband whom she trusted. She, too, was converted and asked that he pray for her once he had attained that glorious reward that now loomed before him a little closer every day. The very next day he was paraded before members of the Herculean legion and Natalia and had his limbs first broken on an anvil and then amputated brutally. As he lie bleeding in Natalia’s arms, they decapitated him and took what remained of his body away from Natalia and to a great fire to be burned along with the bodies of the Christians he had been torturing just two days previous. As they cast the bodies into the flames, Natalia let out a great cry and rushed to throw herself onto the pyre but a great storm that had been building suddenly issued both wind and rain and the fire was put out before Natalia or the bodies could be burned.

A little while later–and under the cover of darkness–Christians came out of hiding to take the bodies of the martyrs and give them a Christian burial. Along with the bodies, they took Natalia with them and cared for her for the rest of her life. She was the widow of a martyr and a Christian herself and so she was honored among the Christians for years to come. Though she was not a martyr herself it was clear that she had given up much for her faith. So, when she died she was buried alongside Adrian in the place where martyrs were buried.

Burlington House

An inquiring reader emailed me to ask why I hadn’t been posting very regularly recently. Well, I have just bought me a house. Not a regular house, mind you, but one that hadn’t been updated in over 50 years. So, over the next six months or so, I am going to be tad busy renovating. I will still keep writing for Eclectic Christian, but my posts will be a little more infrequent. I must also say that I am eternally grateful to Joshua Hearne for the wonderful contribution that he has been making to the site. If anyone else wants to do an occasional guest post, drop me a note. You can reach me at mike_kim_bell[at]hotmail[dot]com.

The picture is of the house next door. Same age, but it has been fixed up. Think of it as our “after” picture.

By Michael Bell

Ok, so this is not my most theological post ever, but one that should save our readers a lot of money. (Particularly the Canadians.)

A Canadian Member of Parliament (American’s think the equivalent of Congressman), Dan McTeague, has a formula which he uses to calculate Gas Prices in Canada. He does this based on the spot price of Gasoline on the New York Mercantile Exchange. He then applies a formula to the price, and presto, he gets the price of Gasoline for each major Canadian city. (Don’t worry we have good news for Americans too!) The neat thing about it, is at roughly 5:00 p.m. EST, he posts what the price of Gasoline is going to be THE NEXT DAY.

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